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Phoenix 888
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Posted - 2004.11.17 11:00:00 -
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I have many ideas on how you could make your game really really different. Ever since I started playing I have wanted to have a ship that no one else has - my own unique ship. If players had there own one off unique ships imagine the appeal eve would have - you would attract so many new players from word of mouth alone that your servers would not be able to handle it !!
How can this be achieved though i hear you say we cannot possibly make 100,000 different ships ??
Its really quite simple - use 'Engineering Kits' - Like implants 'Engineering Kits' will be quite rare and/or expensive.
Level 1 Engineering kit would allow you to add 1 extra low slot to any ship
Level 2 Engineering kit would allow you to add 1 extra med slot to any ship
Level 3 Engineering kit would allow you to add 1 extra high slot to any ship
Once an 'Engineering kit' has been installed the ship will change color to indicate fairly to other players that this is in fact a custom ship. Level 1, 2, and 3 re-engineered ship's will have different colors.
And this is only the beginning of what can be done
Of course a specialist skill will be needed to effectively install and use re-engineered ships....
The pottential for this type of customisation is boudless and players will at last see the beginning of there own custom ships - this type of modular 'implant for ships' upgrading would live and die with that ship.
Is this a cool idea or what :) :) :) :)
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Phoenix 888
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Posted - 2004.11.17 11:00:00 -
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I have many ideas on how you could make your game really really different. Ever since I started playing I have wanted to have a ship that no one else has - my own unique ship. If players had there own one off unique ships imagine the appeal eve would have - you would attract so many new players from word of mouth alone that your servers would not be able to handle it !!
How can this be achieved though i hear you say we cannot possibly make 100,000 different ships ??
Its really quite simple - use 'Engineering Kits' - Like implants 'Engineering Kits' will be quite rare and/or expensive.
Level 1 Engineering kit would allow you to add 1 extra low slot to any ship
Level 2 Engineering kit would allow you to add 1 extra med slot to any ship
Level 3 Engineering kit would allow you to add 1 extra high slot to any ship
Once an 'Engineering kit' has been installed the ship will change color to indicate fairly to other players that this is in fact a custom ship. Level 1, 2, and 3 re-engineered ship's will have different colors.
And this is only the beginning of what can be done
Of course a specialist skill will be needed to effectively install and use re-engineered ships....
The pottential for this type of customisation is boudless and players will at last see the beginning of there own custom ships - this type of modular 'implant for ships' upgrading would live and die with that ship.
Is this a cool idea or what :) :) :) :)
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Phoenix 888
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Posted - 2004.11.17 11:10:00 -
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Open your mind a little logan you can set limits !!
Each ship can be limited to 1 upgrade, just for an example.
This is just an idea at this point. If done properly im sure it will make eve the best space rpg for a long time to come.
Like i said wouldnt it be nice to have your own unique ship that you have customised beyond the conventional - each time you see a player out there you have a fair idea of his fitting and can counter at this point.
With my idea we can have our OWN upgrades the variations very quickly become boundless :) :) :)
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Phoenix 888
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Posted - 2004.11.17 11:10:00 -
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Open your mind a little logan you can set limits !!
Each ship can be limited to 1 upgrade, just for an example.
This is just an idea at this point. If done properly im sure it will make eve the best space rpg for a long time to come.
Like i said wouldnt it be nice to have your own unique ship that you have customised beyond the conventional - each time you see a player out there you have a fair idea of his fitting and can counter at this point.
With my idea we can have our OWN upgrades the variations very quickly become boundless :) :) :)
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Phoenix 888
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Posted - 2004.11.17 11:20:00 -
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Well if you see a Gold raven (the gold hull color indicating that it has a L3 Engineering kit installed) then you run for cover and get support.
The guy who is lucky enough to have a battleship sized engineering kit (100M upwards in cost for example) will not want to loose his ship and will be very careful.
Man !! He will probably run from a Kessie - lol - Just to save risking his new baby :)
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Phoenix 888
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Posted - 2004.11.17 11:20:00 -
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Well if you see a Gold raven (the gold hull color indicating that it has a L3 Engineering kit installed) then you run for cover and get support.
The guy who is lucky enough to have a battleship sized engineering kit (100M upwards in cost for example) will not want to loose his ship and will be very careful.
Man !! He will probably run from a Kessie - lol - Just to save risking his new baby :)
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Phoenix 888
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Posted - 2004.11.17 11:35:00 -
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Finally someone who is thinking a little :)
Duffman your comments are very welcome - lol
As for the elite frig thing, im not sure how to resolve this ATM but just a small idea would be to not allow them to be customised further as they are already Customised frigs (Just that eve decided on how to customise instead of the player)
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Phoenix 888
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Posted - 2004.11.17 11:35:00 -
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Finally someone who is thinking a little :)
Duffman your comments are very welcome - lol
As for the elite frig thing, im not sure how to resolve this ATM but just a small idea would be to not allow them to be customised further as they are already Customised frigs (Just that eve decided on how to customise instead of the player)
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Phoenix 888
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Posted - 2004.11.17 12:05:00 -
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Jade i didnt understand a word of that last comment you made ???
Look Players....
If you want to be nice and balanced all the time why not have one ship and forget about fitting your own modules !!
Lets make this game unpredictable - just a little guys
In real life (if we had space ship wars) wouldnt we be able to make our own tweaks.
Is war fair and balanced all the time ????
From now on when you undock you will.....
Who knows what you will find out there :) :) :)
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Phoenix 888
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Posted - 2004.11.17 12:05:00 -
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Jade i didnt understand a word of that last comment you made ???
Look Players....
If you want to be nice and balanced all the time why not have one ship and forget about fitting your own modules !!
Lets make this game unpredictable - just a little guys
In real life (if we had space ship wars) wouldnt we be able to make our own tweaks.
Is war fair and balanced all the time ????
From now on when you undock you will.....
Who knows what you will find out there :) :) :)
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Phoenix 888
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Posted - 2004.11.17 12:08:00 -
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Duffmanx :)
Now your getting it :) :) :)
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Phoenix 888
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Posted - 2004.11.17 12:08:00 -
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Duffmanx :)
Now your getting it :) :) :)
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Phoenix 888
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Posted - 2004.11.17 13:02:00 -
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To be honest raptor I thought that when i Subsribed.
I also thought you would be able to find shipwreaks in space, salvage and repair them for unique one off rare real life type situations - lol
maybee im just asking too much
If only i worked at EVE......
Boy would things be different :) :) :)
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Phoenix 888
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Posted - 2004.11.17 13:02:00 -
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To be honest raptor I thought that when i Subsribed.
I also thought you would be able to find shipwreaks in space, salvage and repair them for unique one off rare real life type situations - lol
maybee im just asking too much
If only i worked at EVE......
Boy would things be different :) :) :)
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Phoenix 888
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Posted - 2004.11.17 13:21:00 -
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Cool idea allmus - i never thought of it quite like that.
I think that people are beginning to get the idae :)
Just want too add a litte unpredictable realisim into this game.
Its good at the moment but it could be GREAT with just a little thought from our friends the programmers.
I think that eventaully we will all get bored unless it is possible to have more input into customising our own ships to make them truly uniquie to us.
Ahhhh My Gold crow with extra Mid slot and x modifation is my favorite little baby !!
Watch out EVE here I come !!!!
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Phoenix 888
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Posted - 2004.11.17 13:21:00 -
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Cool idea allmus - i never thought of it quite like that.
I think that people are beginning to get the idae :)
Just want too add a litte unpredictable realisim into this game.
Its good at the moment but it could be GREAT with just a little thought from our friends the programmers.
I think that eventaully we will all get bored unless it is possible to have more input into customising our own ships to make them truly uniquie to us.
Ahhhh My Gold crow with extra Mid slot and x modifation is my favorite little baby !!
Watch out EVE here I come !!!!
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Phoenix 888
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Posted - 2004.11.17 13:46:00 -
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Thats the idea Artegg - anyone with a little imagination can see that this type of custom gaming will make EVE unpredictable and playable all day and nite without ever getting boring :)
How long can you mindlessly mine asteroids ?
Or run the same missions over and over ?
We need EVE to kick it up a nocth !!
and im not talking about just new graphics and ships
Lets make this game REAL
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Phoenix 888
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Posted - 2004.11.17 13:46:00 -
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Thats the idea Artegg - anyone with a little imagination can see that this type of custom gaming will make EVE unpredictable and playable all day and nite without ever getting boring :)
How long can you mindlessly mine asteroids ?
Or run the same missions over and over ?
We need EVE to kick it up a nocth !!
and im not talking about just new graphics and ships
Lets make this game REAL
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Phoenix 888
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Posted - 2004.11.17 13:50:00 -
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Heres another little idea :)
If an upgraded ship is ever destroyed it drops the expensive module/engineering kit - this kit can be used by whoever can get to the can first
Now youve got a real insentive to kill that special upgraded Custom ship
Wouldnt that kick ass !!!!
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Phoenix 888
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Posted - 2004.11.17 13:50:00 -
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Heres another little idea :)
If an upgraded ship is ever destroyed it drops the expensive module/engineering kit - this kit can be used by whoever can get to the can first
Now youve got a real insentive to kill that special upgraded Custom ship
Wouldnt that kick ass !!!!
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Phoenix 888
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Posted - 2004.11.17 13:54:00 -
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Aramoro
I dont want to make upgrade kits hard to get hold of but i would like to see them coming from agents like implants.
Unlike implants however i would like to see 100's of different types of kits so the chances of people copying is very remote indeed
What do you think ???
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Phoenix 888
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Posted - 2004.11.17 13:54:00 -
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Aramoro
I dont want to make upgrade kits hard to get hold of but i would like to see them coming from agents like implants.
Unlike implants however i would like to see 100's of different types of kits so the chances of people copying is very remote indeed
What do you think ???
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Phoenix 888
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Posted - 2004.11.17 14:03:00 -
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How would adding ship upgrades that effect the stats and performance of your ship cause Lag ??????
This is not a major graphics change !
Unless you decide to have ships change colour to indicate the upgrades.
Even that is not such a big deal - now your ships red instead of grey - so what ??
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Phoenix 888
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Posted - 2004.11.17 14:03:00 -
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How would adding ship upgrades that effect the stats and performance of your ship cause Lag ??????
This is not a major graphics change !
Unless you decide to have ships change colour to indicate the upgrades.
Even that is not such a big deal - now your ships red instead of grey - so what ??
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Phoenix 888
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Posted - 2004.11.17 14:31:00 -
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I e-mailed this suggestion to CCP - not had a response as yet.
Either they dont care to reply ?
Are too busy to reply ?
Or.....
I dont know what else
CCP Please Reply !!!!
You gota agree that even if the specifics of this need a little more thought the idea is basically very sound and very popular :)
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Phoenix 888
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Posted - 2004.11.17 14:31:00 -
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I e-mailed this suggestion to CCP - not had a response as yet.
Either they dont care to reply ?
Are too busy to reply ?
Or.....
I dont know what else
CCP Please Reply !!!!
You gota agree that even if the specifics of this need a little more thought the idea is basically very sound and very popular :)
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Phoenix 888
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Posted - 2004.11.17 15:06:00 -
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Your probably right Nervar but doesnt it fire the imagination to have endless posibilities in EVE with regard not only ship customisation but in other areas too :)
I always dreamt of star wars type battles and flying the fastest custom ship in the fleet the Millenium Falcon :)
Remember that the appeal was in the custom built/upgraded non convetional part ....
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Phoenix 888
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Posted - 2004.11.17 15:06:00 -
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Your probably right Nervar but doesnt it fire the imagination to have endless posibilities in EVE with regard not only ship customisation but in other areas too :)
I always dreamt of star wars type battles and flying the fastest custom ship in the fleet the Millenium Falcon :)
Remember that the appeal was in the custom built/upgraded non convetional part ....
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Phoenix 888
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Posted - 2004.11.17 15:10:00 -
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Are we really all in this for rules and fair and balance
Doesnt anyone want a bit of unpredictability...
All you balance freeks !!
Wake up, lets have have some fun !!
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Phoenix 888
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Posted - 2004.11.17 15:10:00 -
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Are we really all in this for rules and fair and balance
Doesnt anyone want a bit of unpredictability...
All you balance freeks !!
Wake up, lets have have some fun !!
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Phoenix 888
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Posted - 2004.11.17 15:48:00 -
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Youa are contradicting yourself :)
Why do you want a silver magnate ????
Isnt it to have something a little different to everybody else
Like i say all this balancing is a load of garbage any race can fly any type of ship with a little extra training and all races will have the customisation ability anyways...
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Phoenix 888
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Posted - 2004.11.17 15:48:00 -
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Youa are contradicting yourself :)
Why do you want a silver magnate ????
Isnt it to have something a little different to everybody else
Like i say all this balancing is a load of garbage any race can fly any type of ship with a little extra training and all races will have the customisation ability anyways...
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Phoenix 888
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Posted - 2004.11.17 16:15:00 -
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well fair enough - I hear what you are saying maybe this idea is a little too ahead of its time
I would like a game where the user input is as unlimited as possible.
I would like a game where i can make a ship just how i want it the more cash or time i put into customising it the better it gets. And of course if you loose that ship its all gone the time, the isk.... The lot
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Phoenix 888
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Posted - 2004.11.17 16:15:00 -
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well fair enough - I hear what you are saying maybe this idea is a little too ahead of its time
I would like a game where the user input is as unlimited as possible.
I would like a game where i can make a ship just how i want it the more cash or time i put into customising it the better it gets. And of course if you loose that ship its all gone the time, the isk.... The lot
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Phoenix 888
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Posted - 2004.11.17 16:29:00 -
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Again I do hear what you are saying.
Fitting modules of varying types is one way of customising your ship and hence your gaming experience.
But what im saying is that that should not be the end of it.
Even if my idea is a bad one we do need more ways to spice up EVE and i honestly believe it lies in making the ships custom buildable even if you need to sacrifice something for the upgrades.
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Phoenix 888
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Posted - 2004.11.17 16:29:00 -
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Again I do hear what you are saying.
Fitting modules of varying types is one way of customising your ship and hence your gaming experience.
But what im saying is that that should not be the end of it.
Even if my idea is a bad one we do need more ways to spice up EVE and i honestly believe it lies in making the ships custom buildable even if you need to sacrifice something for the upgrades.
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Phoenix 888
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Posted - 2004.11.17 16:46:00 -
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Raptor I really like your last paragraph :)
I would love to get hold of an engineering kit that would change my rax to have the 5% bonus for beams instad of rails...
Gives us loads more configs to find and is at the very least a good start
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Phoenix 888
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Posted - 2004.11.17 16:46:00 -
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Raptor I really like your last paragraph :)
I would love to get hold of an engineering kit that would change my rax to have the 5% bonus for beams instad of rails...
Gives us loads more configs to find and is at the very least a good start
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Phoenix 888
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Posted - 2004.11.18 17:01:00 -
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Wow yes um Alowishus you complete pri*k im sure that CCP (obviously your gods) must have thoght of this and every other idea in the entire world.
What is the point of a forum if you cant express a thought or idea !!
I dont usually get annoyed on forums but closed minded idiots like you are the kinda people that hold things back and hate change.
CCP may well have considered this idea - so what if they have. does it really upset things so much if i make a suggestion that may have alwready been thought of ?????
Ever consider that someone in this game may have an idea at some point in there pointless existence that CCP actually didnt think of ??????
I encourage all players to put forward ideas :)
It is only this way that things improve and we keep interested - ignore closed minded PRIC*S like ALOWISHUS
Have fun out there :) :) :)
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Phoenix 888
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Posted - 2004.11.18 17:01:00 -
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Wow yes um Alowishus you complete pri*k im sure that CCP (obviously your gods) must have thoght of this and every other idea in the entire world.
What is the point of a forum if you cant express a thought or idea !!
I dont usually get annoyed on forums but closed minded idiots like you are the kinda people that hold things back and hate change.
CCP may well have considered this idea - so what if they have. does it really upset things so much if i make a suggestion that may have alwready been thought of ?????
Ever consider that someone in this game may have an idea at some point in there pointless existence that CCP actually didnt think of ??????
I encourage all players to put forward ideas :)
It is only this way that things improve and we keep interested - ignore closed minded PRIC*S like ALOWISHUS
Have fun out there :) :) :)
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Phoenix 888
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Posted - 2004.11.18 19:43:00 -
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Look Alowishus you are entitled to your opinion as is everyone who reads this post.
I dont mind you saying that you think this idea is totally flawed, perhaps you are right.
what really annoed me is that the way you rote your earlier comments and your coments about CCP. You stuck me as the type of person who would just wait for someone to make the slightest slip so you could for no reason at all put that person down.
Your first statements were not only childish but foolish.
Forums are for people to express ideas on an open platform and get a discussion going and from time to time ask for and offer assistance.
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Phoenix 888
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Posted - 2004.11.18 19:43:00 -
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Look Alowishus you are entitled to your opinion as is everyone who reads this post.
I dont mind you saying that you think this idea is totally flawed, perhaps you are right.
what really annoed me is that the way you rote your earlier comments and your coments about CCP. You stuck me as the type of person who would just wait for someone to make the slightest slip so you could for no reason at all put that person down.
Your first statements were not only childish but foolish.
Forums are for people to express ideas on an open platform and get a discussion going and from time to time ask for and offer assistance.
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Phoenix 888
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Posted - 2004.11.19 12:49:00 -
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Thank you Clay û I have only been on EVE for 6 months and I do appreciate your comments û Fly safe man
I will keep an eye out for you m8
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Phoenix 888
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Posted - 2004.11.19 12:49:00 -
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Thank you Clay û I have only been on EVE for 6 months and I do appreciate your comments û Fly safe man
I will keep an eye out for you m8
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Phoenix 888
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Posted - 2004.11.19 12:56:00 -
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Oh...
And I thank every other player who has taken the time to share there views
Its been Interesting
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Phoenix 888
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Posted - 2004.11.19 12:56:00 -
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Oh...
And I thank every other player who has taken the time to share there views
Its been Interesting
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Phoenix 888
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Posted - 2004.11.21 12:05:00 -
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When I started this thread I had no idea how much mixed opinion there was !!
Clearly there is room for improvement in this direction, people want to be different from each other and I think thats inly natural since we are all unique.
Question is do we need a big Mod like the Engineering kits I mentioned at the start or just a Paint shop ?
I will leave it up to the majority and of course CCP to decide
My opinion is that if the game is opened up as much as possible and we forget about all this balancing then we will all have access to this extra stuff and the better more cunning player will be on top. Also those who keep losing out will strive to find ways to counter and of course they will have same access to new stuff as everybody else (possibilities would truly be endless). Our ships will be what we make them and not bound to the confines of CCP's idea of what is correct for each ship/player.
Well im sure that that will shake the cobwebs and wake up people who are getting bored of the mundane.
Im also sure that it will stir the s**t once again for the people who are comfortable knowing that an APOC is an APOC and thats that :)
Keep having fun all I wish you all the best - lol
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Phoenix 888
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Posted - 2004.11.21 12:05:00 -
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When I started this thread I had no idea how much mixed opinion there was !!
Clearly there is room for improvement in this direction, people want to be different from each other and I think thats inly natural since we are all unique.
Question is do we need a big Mod like the Engineering kits I mentioned at the start or just a Paint shop ?
I will leave it up to the majority and of course CCP to decide
My opinion is that if the game is opened up as much as possible and we forget about all this balancing then we will all have access to this extra stuff and the better more cunning player will be on top. Also those who keep losing out will strive to find ways to counter and of course they will have same access to new stuff as everybody else (possibilities would truly be endless). Our ships will be what we make them and not bound to the confines of CCP's idea of what is correct for each ship/player.
Well im sure that that will shake the cobwebs and wake up people who are getting bored of the mundane.
Im also sure that it will stir the s**t once again for the people who are comfortable knowing that an APOC is an APOC and thats that :)
Keep having fun all I wish you all the best - lol
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Phoenix 888
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Posted - 2004.11.22 12:35:00 -
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Exactly my point
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Phoenix 888
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Posted - 2004.11.22 12:35:00 -
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Exactly my point
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